Friday, May 5, 2023

Friday, November 25, 2022

Continental Z120 block replacement

 

This company is machining aluminum blocks and heads out of billet material.

 

https://www.enginebuildermag.com/2019/12/dotw-all-billet-6-7l-cummins/?oly_enc_id=6688E2208356J9A

 

We all know that the Continental Z120 series of gasoline engines used in the Ferguson T0-20 were prone to cracking. The indication is that the engine was under designed to be a load bearing structural member. Ferguson started 1945 UK TE-20 production with US built Continental Z120s and then switched to the Standard built engines when they became available.

 

Standard Motor Company designed a gasoline engine based on the Continental Z120 to be used in the TE-20 but they beefed up the design so their engine did not crack. This is discussed in the “The Book of THE STANDARD MOTOR COMPANY”.  My as yet unverified suspicion is that Standard Motor did not closely share with the Ferguson organization the improvements they had made with their engine so Standard’s would remain the preferred engine.

 

The Ferguson TO-20 started out largely as a copy of the TE-20. Ferguson started 1948 TO-20 production in Detroit with the Continental Z120 and then went to the Z129 for the TO-30 without ever having Continental fully correct the design flaw.

 

Looks like it would be possible to machine an engine block out of a solid chunk of steel to replace a cracked Continental Z120/Z129 casting. The key might be reverse engineering a Continental block to get a set of accurate drawings that could be used for the machining.

 

Cost effective? No.

 

9N not mentioned

This article does not mention the Ford-Ferguson joint venture.

 

https://www.autonews.com/article/20030602/SUB/306020857/ford-in-europe-an-historical-time-line

restoration article

Interesting article.

http://www.engineprofessional.com/EPQ1-2009/mobile/index.html#p=25

Standard engine

Compares Standard engines in TE20 to autos.

 

https://qr.ae/pNedwS

Sunday, April 5, 2020

RE: [MasseyFerguson] Massey Ferguson and the Code Talkers.

I can remember seeing a dealership location on a trip to Canyon De Chelly (blue dot) . Looks like the Farmington location closed.

The enterprise may not have survived the 2008 Great Recession.

[Judy Kitson] James, Thanks for this idea to research. I find it interesting as here in Page, I sit virtually on the western border of the Navajo Reservation. During the time, approx. 1999 -2016 that my husband and his friend Gene were getting caught up in tractors and seemed to be collecting every abandoned tractor they could find off the Navajo Reservation, approx. 15, they only found one 9N and one TO 35. All the rest were other brands. But the reservation is big and I plan to do some looking and research on my own thanks to your idea.

[James] I recently saw the movie "Code Talkers" for the first time. The movie contained a lot of imagery of the four corners area where the movie starts and reminded me of trips to the Navajo area I made 25 years ago. One thing we all know is that things as portrayed in movies can be a little different than as we view them with our own eyes.

In 1995, I do not know about now, most of the tractors I saw at work or at rest on the Navajo reservation areas were Massey Ferguson. I was told that the tribal business enterprises included a multi-location Massey Ferguson dealership.

Well, back when young men were boarding greyhound busses at remote spots in the Navajo reservation to go off to be trained as Code Talkers, the Massey Ferguson brand did not exist yet. The Ford with Ferguson System 9N and 2N tractors might or might not have been sold in the area then.

I would be interested in knowing the history of how the Navajo tribal government ended up opening up a Massey Ferguson dealership and what has transpired since.

http://www.navajotractorinc.com/index.html [1]

https://www.facebook.com/navajotractorsales/ [2]


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